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At 31, would Danica Patrick be “too old” for F1? (VIDEO)

May 10, 2013, 12:15 PM EDT

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With several young talented female drivers in the pipeline, at 31 and with a stable career in NASCAR, any such moves for Danica Patrick would be doubtful at best. The ones to watch going forward, who have already established a European base, include Alice Powell and Vicky Piria. Powell, who’s English, has done well in Formula 3, while Italian Piria has raced in GP3 in recent years. Susie Wolff, too, serves as Williams’ test driver.

On Friday, Patrick also appeared as a guest on The Dan Patrick Show, which also airs on the NBC Sports Network, to elaborate.

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  1. icemanpjn - May 10, 2013 at 12:37 PM

    People DP undue credit. They’ve been far too kind to her. Her age isn’t the only thing holding her back in terms of F1. She doesn’t qualify for a Super License, which is mandatory for driving in F1. Even if the FIA would be generous and grant a Super License that she never earned, she doesn’t have the skill to be competitive, as indicated by her mediocre track record. When looking at her race results, it’s important to understand that oval results mean nothing since F1 has no ovals, so all that matters, in terms of gauging her potential in F1, are road course results. She usually did poorly on road courses.

    • icemanpjn - May 10, 2013 at 12:38 PM

      There were some typos in there due to me being on my cell.

  2. midtec2005 - May 10, 2013 at 1:02 PM

    Danica doesn’t have a “too old” problem, she has a “not good enough” problem…

  3. wallio - May 10, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    Her age is 31? Really? So it matches her average finish this year in Cup! How about that!

  4. purplesectornet - May 10, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    I don’t think this criticism is fair…she has raced in Europe and she has shown ability, it’s not like she couldn’t do it or doesn’t deserve a super license that is ridiculous, of course she should get a license…she has plenty of top tier racing experience and is certainly competent enough to do it…she just never would because she don’t what that kind of spotlight on her…

    I think some of you need to review this video:

    She obviously is a very very good race car driver…

    • wallio - May 10, 2013 at 2:06 PM

      Purple you have no clue. She doesn’t even qualify for a Super license (you have to be top 3 in GP2, F2, F3.5 or Indycar, or have extensive success in them and do 300+kilometers in an F1 car) much less “deserve” one. And yes she raced in Europe (mostly Formula Ford) but NEVER won. Ditto Atlantics, or Star Mazda. She’s not,as you put it, a “very very good race car driver”. She’s a frankly poor race car driver who likes taking her clothes off for cameras and gets media time from it. Period.

  5. purplesectornet - May 10, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    Oh BULLSHIT asshole. She was on pole for the Daytona 500 so FUCK YOU.

    • Tony DiZinno - May 10, 2013 at 5:38 PM

      Not sure who this comment is specifically directed to, but while disagreements are fine, personal attacks with such language, such as this one, are not.

      • purplesectornet - May 10, 2013 at 5:58 PM

        I apologize I really do…but this is the one time I feel like it was called for…the sexism is disgusting…I wont go that far again…just got really really riled up this world needs to change its attitude…

  6. wallio - May 10, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    What does name calling accomplish? The fact is she does not meet the FIA’s bare minimum requirements to obtain a Super License, despite you thinking she does. And yes she did get pole at Daytona, but Jimmie Johnson, on Pole Day at Daytona THIS YEAR, said “A monkey could do this”. Her pole was down to car, pure and simple. SHR had all 3 cars in the top 5 at Daytona.

    You brought up her European experience, but she never won in Europe, or in any lower tier series. Or in ANY series other than Indycar (when half the field didn’t enter the race, and three cars in front of her ran out of gas). Sorry but its true.

    So many people hate Danica because its so damn hard to run a race team. Trust me, I know, I race myself (as do many on here) and its soooo damn hard to get sponsership. I am lucky enough to have a few small sponsers now, but if I wreck or blow something big, the car has to sit for awhile til I fix it, and that sucks. But not as much as seeing a frankly fairly talentless woman get naked and have millions thrown at her. She’s another Milka Duno, thats all. And if she was a man, she never would have made it past FFord. Sorry, but its true.

    • wallio - May 10, 2013 at 3:02 PM

      And as to your comment about not wanting the spotlight on her, her numerus photo shoots (SI twice, FHM, Maxim, Shape) and all her GoDaddy ads, there all about racing aren’t they? They have nothing to do with media attention do they?

      • purplesectornet - May 10, 2013 at 5:37 PM

        Oh bite me wallio – you know what I’m talking about if you race yourself. Your disengenous posting is pathetic, I really do wish we were face to face so I could tell you off…because you deserve it pal. F1 is cut-throat no matter who you are – and with assholes like you out there, why would she go there and subject herself to your bullshit? You need to get a grip…she is a talented race car driver that has to listen to your pathetic diatribe every day…I for one of sick of it…it’s totally uncalled for and says way more about who you are as a man (as in barely a man at all) then her as a race car driver…

    • midtec2005 - May 10, 2013 at 5:06 PM

      Wallio is right… she’s better that Milka Duno but shes no where near the front of the field in nascar or indycar. She’s good at being smooth with a race car, which is why she did okay and Indy and Daytona, but she’s not good at anything else. Just go look at her road course performances in an Indycar, her teammates all finished above her almost every time… and she was always in the back. Now translate that to F1 where it’s exclusively road racing. She wouldn’t have a chance. Yeah she had a couple decent points finishes in Indycar, but until the last couple of years the field was extremely thin because of the infamous split. It’s not being mean or being an asshole to say she isn’t good enough… the results speak for themselves.

      If you want to get behind a good female driver, look into Simona De Silvestro (I probably spelled that wrong). Simona, by the way, has a much better attitude and consequently everyone likes her.

  7. purplesectornet - May 10, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    Oh I get it now – you are hating. While Danica is over rated, what you are doing right now is ridiculous. To say she isn’t a good race car drivers then say you race yourself just makes you look like some kind of hating idiot…seriously. This is the kind of shit she has to face every day and its total bullshit… This is blatant and mean spirited sexism, pure and simple. Truly pathetic.

  8. purplesectornet - May 10, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    I don’t know what pisses me off more reading this ridiculous diatrbe of having to defend Danica Patrick, I’m not a fan…but she did get the better of Jacques in equal cars at Road America, didn’t she? pfffft…same old same old….let me guess you are from North Carolina?

    • chappy715 - May 17, 2013 at 3:01 PM

      When he was 15 years past his prime, did he not shove her off the road?

  9. purplesectornet - May 10, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    i mean “or having to defend Danica”…you get the idea…

  10. wallio - May 10, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    Purple, are you related to Danica? Seriously, because there’s no reason to freak out and resort to such childish tactics. I have been nothing but civil to you. Its so easy to cry “sexism” when people don’t like Danica, and going by your alias, I’d guess you’re female, so that adds to it. But really let’s look at facts:

    Now you claim I’m a “hater” but if I was I’d bring up her awful attitude towards her fans, how everyone of her Indy teammates despised her, or how she cheated on her husband for months. But I didn’t. I stuck to racing. You repeatedly claim she “deserves” a Super License. I pointed out she meets NONE of the requirements for one. The FIA has them posted on their website, look them up. (Although they could apply the “Kimi Raikkonen Exception” to her, the FIA is very wary of this after the Yuji Ide debacle). You said she raced in Europe, I pointed out she had really mediocre results there. So please can you tell me why the FIA should waive their own rules and grant her a Super License? Because of one Busch series race ? Busch cars are FAR from identical BTW.

    You then claim Danica doesn’t like the spotlight, when she has said herself (repeatedly) that she loves being a sex symbol and being in front of cameras. You asked why so many people hate Danica, so I explained why many do, pertaining to her ease of sponsorship compared to the rest of us racers. I never compared myself directly to Danica, I merely said “Weekend Warriors” like myself struggle for cash, where as she just gets semi-nude. Its a fact. Look up how much she makes per GoDaddy commercial, its unreal.

    But I’m a childish hater. The fact is from go-karts to now Danica only won one race. Just one. That’s a fact. She’s about as talented as Mila Duno, or Susie Wolfe. Its sad that’s she’s the poster child for women racers as they’re are much better ones out there. Simona has been mentioned, but Kat Legged smoked Danica in feeder series races, but never hooked up with a top team. The Force women in the NHRA routinely win (ditto Erica Enders) but none of them to my knowledge have done bikini shoots, so they get no love in the press. Sad but true.

    So I ask again, why should a driver with 1 career win have the rules changed to be allowed in F1? Or would you rather just curse some more?

  11. purplesectornet - May 10, 2013 at 11:33 PM

    Who doesn’t have a clue? Not only am I male – I’m six foot three, 220, and I’m an athlete myself…so whatever there buddy, you are WAY OFF. I’m not a Danica fan…but your claim that she is “about as good as Milka Duno speaks for itself. The fact that Danica is faster than you, is your problem. Once again, you need a good dressing down face to face, because dude it’s men like you that ruin it for the rest of us. I am SO SICK of your kinds of attitudes.

    • stercuilus65 - May 22, 2013 at 7:19 AM

      You are a 5′ 2″ pimply face 350lb loser playing internet tough guy from his mama’s basement.

      • purplesectornet - May 22, 2013 at 3:32 PM

        My name is Stephen White I live in Seattle Washington – need my cell?

  12. purplesectornet - May 10, 2013 at 11:37 PM

    She is the first woman to ever be on pole for the Indy 500….which means you couldn’t carry her jock strap…so to speak. You need to get a grip. Seriously.

    • uplander99 - May 11, 2013 at 7:44 AM

      You don’t have a clue that’s who.

      You are dead wrong. Wrongy Purple McWrongerson.

      She has never ever never started even on the front row of an Indy 500. Never. No pole, no front row. Never. You are a liar.

      She is an awful road racer, and an awful human being.

      And outside of not being a disgusting fatso, she’s not even attractive.

      • purplesectornet - May 11, 2013 at 9:47 AM

        Right sorry I meant Daytona….but thanks for proving my point yet again…

  13. wallio - May 11, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    Sigh. Just as I expected. More insults. Another threat of bodily harm. No real answer. Fine. I give up. You’ve already run everyone else off this thread. So I will end with this. You’re reasoning Danica should be in F1 is because I’m “not a man”, “a hater”, and you’re “an athlete”. Oh and because she’s faster than me (which is probably true, its been years since I’ve driven a stock car, which I have). I’m sure the FIA will take it under serious advisement. Otherwise, I can see its Friday night and the grade schoolers have no bed time, so I bid you adieu (that’s French, so I’m so you’ll hate it).

    Tony, any way we can get a “block” feature installed here? Or a “suggest the ban hammer” button?

    • Tony DiZinno - May 13, 2013 at 2:10 PM

      Sorry Wallio for the late reply on this – was out on an assignment this weekend. We frankly, haven’t seen a comment thread of this magnitude, length and back-and-forth nature since MST started a couple months ago.

      It’s something we need to look at implementing if things get out of hand again on what was barely much of a story to begin with – we just linked to a video from the FP2 broadcast.

  14. purplesectornet - May 11, 2013 at 1:58 AM

    Now you are just making stuff up…Danica is a very talented race car driver. Is she elite as in Alonso or Jimmy J? No. Would F1 give her a super license? Yes. All the rest of the stuff you are writing including the statement that I’m threatening you would bodily harm is complete nonsense. You are claiming that Danica isn’t any good and is in the same class as Milka Duno…that’s on you. It’s amazing to me how many of you blowhards, all of you claiming you are “racers”; there are on these kind of sites dedicated to racing…the only thing grade school going on here is your perception of Danica Patrick and her talents, which is essentially in the province of an infantile wanna be racer…you write your pathetic diatribe then beg for a block feature when you are called on it….only grade schooler here is you…

  15. purplesectornet - May 11, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    “She’s a frankly poor race car driver who likes taking her clothes off for cameras and gets media time from it. Period”

    “But not as much as seeing a frankly fairly talentless woman get naked and have millions thrown at her. She’s another Milka Duno, thats all.”

    “I’d bring up her awful attitude towards her fans, how everyone of her Indy teammates despised her, or how she cheated on her husband for months”

    “She is an awful road racer, and an awful human being.”

    “And outside of not being a disgusting fatso, she’s not even attractive.”


    There is no sexism, no celebrity hating in any of this right guys? You are just calling it like it is? Here is some cold hard truth: Danica is essentially Jackie Robinson or Billy Jean King, blazing a trail and opening doors, the Daytona pole is historic as was leading laps at Indy – so I would be very very careful if I were you two…the mean spirited diatribe, the comments on her personal life or her looks, you do understand what that starts to look like, right?

    The fact is keeping an IndyCar on pace with the rest of the field, which she has clearly done many many times; requires talent, the kind of talent all top tier race car drivers posses; and she has run near the front a lot. Racing a Nationwide car at Road America, probably THE greatest road course in America, and dicing for a top five all day against of all people Jacques Villenueve and Nelson Piquet…guess what? It makes her not only talented; but damn fast. No matter what pathetic BS you write here – you simply cannot take that away from her.

    Now – there are the cold hard facts. So go ahead anonymous race car driver who can’t get sponsors because Danica stole Go Daddy from you; talk more trash about her. Because frankly it just makes you continue to look like a fool.

  16. wallio - May 11, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    This will be my last word on the subject (some of us have jobs you know). If you think Danica is “blazing a trail”, look up Janet Guthrie. Or Lynn St. James. Or Shirley Muldowney. Or Bunny Burnett. Or Desire Wilson (who won an F1 race BTW, non-championship, but still). These women were trail blazers. Of course they all retired long before you were born.

  17. purplesectornet - May 11, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    You’ve had your hat handed to you and you know it. And this is the point Danica makes when she is interviewed about F1 and really about what she is doing. She is a very lucid interview and knows exaclty what is going on and the kind of BS she takes at the likes of people like you. All of the team mates that so called hated here are men, genius.

    Danica is the first woman to lead the Indy 500 and the first woman to take pole position for the Daytona 500 – so yea that qualifies for trail blazing you mental giant – but since your agenda is to do nothing but post diatribe about her, because your polarized opinion has painted you in that box – you basically now have nothing.

    There is no difference between Jenson Button being idolized by Japanese women or Danica being a poster on teenage boys walls. The only difference is in your pathetic and out dated view of the world.

    • midtec2005 - May 15, 2013 at 10:27 AM

      Yes, you handed him his hat by making emotionally charged, illogical arguments; all the while leaving out convenient facts.

      You should be a politician.

      • purplesectornet - May 15, 2013 at 4:39 PM

        Yeah well standing up to arrogant sexist people who have a need to celebrity bash, complete with double standards driven by disdainful sexism and ridiculous diatribe like “she is a horrible human being”; it’s my pleasure to do so. This is an outdated attitude that needs to go away.

        I think my favorite insult is about her doing magazine spreads…so it’s OK for male drivers to sell watches and sports drinks with their shirts off but Danica is bad for wearing a bikini and makeup? The fact is, those that argue this way don’t have a leg to stand on.

      • midtec2005 - May 16, 2013 at 10:46 PM

        I actually do agree with you on the magazine spread comments, which is why I didn’t make them myself.

    • chappy715 - May 17, 2013 at 2:58 PM

      The only difference being that Button has a Formula 1 World Drivers Championship, and no I am not a fan of Button he is old and should retire I am just pointing this out.

  18. drewsylvania - May 13, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    “With several young talented female drivers in the pipeline, at 31 and with a stable career in NASCAR, any such moves for Danica Patrick would be doubtful at best.”

    This is the worst sentence of all time.

    • Tony DiZinno - May 13, 2013 at 2:12 PM

      I haven’t scoured every sentence written throughout history by every writer, but I’ll agree, that’s up there for the worst sentence I’ve ever penned, if not my all-time worst.

      Kudos for keeping me honest and making sure I up my game.

  19. amackrell - May 16, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Danica would not be too old for F1 if she was a talented driver. But she has never been an even average road racer, even in junior formulas. There is not another driver who has graduated to the upper formulas of open wheel racing without ever having won a single race. None. Danica was perfect for the old IRL, because she was a good momentum racer, and excelled at full throttle high down force racing, where precise steering, braking, and throttle control are not required. I predicted she would do well at restrictor plate racing (or at least time trialing) in NASCAR, and that has proven to be her strength again. Put Danica in a good Indy car at Indy and she is a solid top 10. Put Danica in a Ferrari or Red Bull in F1, and she would finish last.

  20. purplesectornet - May 16, 2013 at 5:14 PM

    The last sentence is pure conjecture. But once again her performance at Road America flies in the face of what you are claiming…obviously you need precise steering steering braking and throttle control to be dicing it up with Max Papis and Jacques Villenueve.

    • midtec2005 - May 16, 2013 at 10:53 PM

      You have to keep in mind how different the cars are. One of her big problems in Indycars was the physical nature of driving them. She’s strong for her size… but she’s really small. Nascar cars have power steering. I remember Indycar experimented with it one season and she actually finished pretty well in some of those road races. I think F1 cars are a little less physical than Indycars (Rubens Barichellos words), but probably still quite a bit more physical than a stock car.

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